Another Harley experience that turned me off was last spring when my friend James ,who i rode with several times last summer when he had an old Virago, bought a new Harley. He wouldn't ride with me and a few friends this year. Aftyer turning us down 4 times, i asked him why he wasn't riding much. He replied "I ride a Harley now, so i ride with a different group". Well last August i happen to be out riding over Green Mountain Rd, at the bottom of the mountain is a gas station, i saw James and a few others on thier Harley's, gassing up, i pulled in to say hi, and got this cold shoulder. I said" James we been friends too long for you to act this way towards me, i would like to join you guys for the ride over the mountain". One of the other guys said sure, he can ride with us. We rode to the Apex Lodge at the top of the hill, me in the rear. When we stopped the top ,had a lunch break, two of the bearded Harley guys were drooling over my bike( 2012 Flat black Vmax i was on that day), both asked what brand the bike was, i proudly said Yamaha. Hmmm, siad one, i guess the Japs can build a nice looking bike. After showing them a few 200ft rolling burnouts, i have been phoned several times to be invited on rides with them. Never went out with them again, they are too slow LOL.